Section : Oil and Filters

Oil filters

Posted By : James Lavery, 19-Oct-2003, 04:30am

• Oil filters

  Posted By : David Rumens, 19-Oct-2003, 09:50am

  I find the Halford oil filter (HOF 209) does not drain back. The start up pressure is good.
  
  Regards
  
  Dave

  • Oil filters

    Posted By : Umesh Patel, 21-Oct-2003, 02:51pm

    Same here! - someone told me a while back that the way to check is to blow into it and if no air comes out the oil shouldn't either, which the Halfords ones seem to do. Plus they're only £4.59!
    
    Umski

    • Oil filters

      Posted By : Keith Dandridge, 21-Oct-2003, 04:05pm

      Umski,
      I may be wrong but to test a filter I would have thought you would have to suck??

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        Posted By : Umesh Patel, 22-Oct-2003, 03:17pm

        I don't think I've ever tried sucking! I guess it depends on which way the oil goes in and which way it comes out. It was just something which somebody suggested - I think it may even have been in the Courier a couple of years back???
        
        I think the Unipart ones are quite good too - my previous one was which I bought from Stoneleigh.

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          Posted By : Keith Dandridge, 22-Oct-2003, 04:03pm

          Umesh,
          The oil goes into the filter thro' the small holes round the outside and comes back out of the large centre one. Filters are supposed to be built with a rubber flap or gasket which allows the oil in but flops back over the holes when the oil pressure disappears (when you turn off the engine). No matter which make filter I use, if the car is left for a week the filter is always empty. If I haven't used the car for two weeks, I spin the engine over to get pressure before starting.
          Cheers,
          Keith

          • Oil filters

            Posted By : James Lavery, 23-Oct-2003, 00:26am

            Thanks everyone I'll give them a try.
            
            Jim.

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              Posted By : David Styles, 24-Oct-2003, 10:19am

              An interesting point from above,...
              
              I always leave my choke in and don't touch the accelerator and spin the car over until my oil light goes out and I have about 20lbs of pressure on the oil gauge. takes about 30 secs... before starting.
              
              then a little bit of choke and or throttle and off we go.
              
              Its quite funny that this always makes people assume your car is a bad starter !!
              
              

              • Oil filters

                Posted By : John Tabor, 25-Oct-2003, 04:57pm

                Yep, I always spin my mkIII over with the choke in for a while, for the first start of the day. I had assumed that the lack of oil pressure and the clatter for maybe 5 or so seconds was inevitable with our cars. Maybe it's just the wear in my engine? I'd also be keen to hear recommended oil filters as I use the halfords one and thought it wasn't that good.
                
                cheers, John

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                  Posted By : Steve Cooze, 25-Mar-2004, 10:29pm

                  Martin's idea of a device to interrupt ignition until oil pressure builds - I made exactly such a device for my Spitfire & was very pleased with the results - until I stalled it at a very busy junction! A hot engine meant the starter could not raise the oil pressure so no ignition. At least the large bonnet hid me from angry stares of anorak hating eurobox drivers while I shorted it out! A far better Idea is to just run an ignition cut out switch into the cabin to control firing manually. Hide it in the ash tray and it even provides short term security from opportunists.
                  
                  Steve Cooze.

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                    Posted By : Yves Fleurbay, 29-Jun-2004, 03:18pm

                    I have something similar installed.Because a have an extra oil pressure transducer for an oil press. gage which has aswell a contact in it for low oil pressure warning I used the original swith (when no oil pressure exist) to energize a relay which will remove power from the ingintion coil while cranking the engine.As soon as i have oil pressure the relay will be deenergized allowing power to the ignition coil.Included in the system is a bypass switch when the engine is warm or when something in the system fails...
                    Still the day I find an oil filfter which will retain its oil,I will remove the whole setup because I find it anoying to crank the engine up to 15sec to prime the filter and all the oil channels in the engine.
                    
                    I have learned the expensive way how to ruin your engine crankshaft main and big end bearings in no time if you alow your engine to startup with too much choke and no oil pressure...
                    
                    Greetings
                    
                    Yves
                    
                    
                    

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                Posted By : Martin Ashby, 25-Mar-2004, 06:29pm

                I read somewhere years ago where the ignition was routed through the oil pressure switch, so the car would not start until it registered pressure!
                What do you think? i might try it ,you made me think maybe someone could make up an adapter for the oil filter,there must be a market for it!!

                • Oil filters

                  Posted By : John Davies, 25-Mar-2004, 06:46pm

                  Martin,
                  Useful idea if you have an electric fuel pump, to prevent risk of continued fuel delivery after a crash - assuming the engine stops. Needs some sort of bypass to allow starting until the pressure builds up, so Triumph used an inertia switch as a cut-out for Pi cars. Not so useful with a mechanical fuel pump.
                  
                  John

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            Posted By : Umesh Patel, 24-Oct-2003, 03:09pm

            Okay - so blowing in does make sense as the rubber flaps act like a valve and are supposed to stop the oil leaking out (which they obviously don't do very well!).
            I've found that filters which are air tight are better at keeping oil in so it takes longer for the oil to leak out again whereas those you can blow through are obviously going to let the oil escape more easily. However, as you say, eventually the oil escapes and leaves the filter empty when starting. I guess its a matter of choice which filter you go for!
            
            Umski

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              Posted By : Philip Brammer, 24-Oct-2003, 08:18pm

              Ok, so you could always run a pre 74' renault 4 which did not have an oil filter at all :-).... Naa..maybe not after all!

• Oil filters

  Posted By : Gordon Davies, 21-Oct-2003, 11:31am

  Jim
  I managed to track Pure One to the UK equivalent. Try contacting Alistair_Large@unipart.co.uk for details of stockists. I think the part number for a 1500 is probably L27545 and it retails for about £5.50. If of any use Essex stockist is East Essex Motor Accessories, Clacton tel 01255 423836. They might do mail order. I haven't yet fitted one, so cannot comment on how good they might be.

  • Oil filters

    Posted By : Chris Stanley, 19-Sep-2005, 09:50am

    Hi all,
    
    I recently changed the oil on my spit, using Elf 20W-50 and the Halfords 2-oh-something filter. Started it yesterday after a month of not using it - green light of death went out very quickly and the bearings didn't rumble like they used to before the change. Can't be 100% sure, but think my old filter was Wix (definatly had the rubber flap though). Old oil was only a cheap brand, maybe that doesn't help.
    
    Chris