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Back from a Goodwood track day.

Posted By : David Styles, 18-Nov-2003, 12:40pm

Hi all.

AWESOME.. AWESOME... AWESOME....

is the only thing I can say about my MKIII Spits' handling.

And its not even a swing spring ! That rear anti roll bar is fantastic. Are the race cars allowed them I wonder ? I really hope so.

Anyway....

Tyre Squeal in a spitfire ....

what's that all about then ? Can anyone tell me what it means ? What I should do about it ?
and SHOULD I do anything about it on a road car ?

I don't think its necessarily "bad", but it must be indicative of something.

I should mention that it only happens on entry to Lavant at a nice high speed.(double apex right hander)

The car enjoyed it so much, that its already asked me to take it back to a track in the spring.

And I want more things to fiddle with as always. !

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Posted By : Mark Hadfield, 18-Nov-2003, 01:09pm

i think its safe to say the only way to stop tyre squeal is to go slower .tyre squeal is caused by the tyres been on their limit and i should'nt worry about it too much .You can enjoy tyre squeal all the time if you build a race car and do it all year round and join in the fun
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Posted By : Nigel Gibbins, 18-Nov-2003, 01:26pm

Oh dear... another one bites the dust

On a 'roadgoing' spit it's probably the front tyres doing the squealy thing - but like Mark says the faster you go the more squealy it gets. It's a sign that the tyres are exceeding their grip and can be lots of fun

We are all allowed to fit rear anti-roll bars but many drivers wont fit them without LSDs as they can casue your rear wheel to lift on tight corners adn you lose all drive

Next trackday... try 6th April at Mallory Park (Tuesday) it will be an all triumph affair - more details to follow soon

NiG
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  Posted By : Andy Vowell, 18-Nov-2003, 01:35pm
  
  Rear anti roll bar, +6kg (approx)
  
  Thats why the tyres are squealing - they've got to lug around all that extra weight
  
  Andy V
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    Posted By : Jon Wolfe, 18-Nov-2003, 03:21pm
    
    Noise is also a function of tyre compound. In the old days of the Hankook Porsche 944 series the tyre noise drowned out the noise of the engines! High nylon content = lots of noise.
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  Posted By : Jonathan Blakesley, 18-Nov-2003, 04:54pm
  
  Will that be all triumph, or all club members - as my Spit won't be roadworthy by then, but my MG is!!
  
  On the trackday theme - there is a 'club' called Mgs-on-Track who are keen to get together with other track day enthusiasts to try and increase the number of days available for the more 'classic' end of the scale (i.e. older cars, less intimidation from the MaxPower types). Is there enough interest here (the TSSC in general) to make it worth talking with them? The url is:
  http://mgs-on-track.com
  
  Cheers
  
  Jon
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    Posted By : David Styles, 19-Nov-2003, 10:15am
    
    Thanks for the replies guys....
    
    Just wondered if there was anything I should be changing.
    
    I went with a few friends...
    
    Me : MKIII Spit
    TR6
    MK IV Spit(2000 engine)
    MK III Spit (2.5 PI - rotoflex, TR6 box, etc etc)
    Spit 1500.
    
    as it was a 105 db day, there was only 5 on track at any one time. So we had a whole session to ourselves. So no maxpower weirdos.
    
    6 x 15 minute sessions.
    
    get this
    
    &163;190 PER CAR - ALL IN.
    
    no extra driver nonsense or anything, FREE tuition,
    
    and an extremely friendly chap running it all. (Sports 2000 racer)
    
    I'd fully recommend them.
    
    www.twr-trackdays.com
    
    I've been a few times with him, and its fantastic...
    
    anyway... just thought I'd give him a plug, as you don't get hassled by the maxpower crowd with him.
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      Posted By : Andy Vowell, 19-Nov-2003, 01:40pm
      
      Sounds Great
      
      For info, in Retro Cars magazine a company called Javalin Trackdays is advertising 3 dates at Elvington Airfield 15 Nov, 13 Dec, 17 Jan, and 1 at Cadwell (excellent track) 29 Nov.
      
      &163;85 each
      
      Link is quoted as www.javelin-motorsport.co.uk
      
      Cheers
      Andy V
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    Posted By : Nigel Gibbins, 19-Nov-2003, 11:24am
    
    Going by what we did last year...
    
    It will be a Triumph Cars only day open to TR Register and TSSC members (there were a couple of exceptions). Costs were &163;90 per car and first driver and &163;25 for a second driver. So a whole day could be shared for &194;&163;115 plus petrol.
    
    There was a noise limit of 105dB, but with so many racers on hand if you failed the test I'm sure we could get you through. (I never actually saw anyone being teste)
    
    For this you got 6x20 minute sessions divided into three groups - Novices, Intermediate and Racers. About 15 of the TR/TSSC racing cars were there and many of the drivers were taking passengers and giving instruction. We also had an MSA qualified instructor with us.
    
    I expect not much different from last time.
    NiG
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      Posted By : David Styles, 19-Nov-2003, 12:35pm
      
      thanks Nige,...
      
      The wife's birthday is on the 8th, so I'll have to check....
      
      but I may have 6 entries for you !
      
      Whats the maximum in a session at Mallory ?
      
      i.e how crowded will it be on track ?