Section : Advice for Buyers / New Owners

Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

Posted By : S J Mills, 02-Dec-2005, 11:26am

• Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

  Posted By : Chris Mills, 02-Dec-2005, 12:22pm

  Try this Link
  
  http://www.tssc.org.uk/herald.asp?article=modelran...
  
  Cheers

  • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

    Posted By : S J Mills, 02-Dec-2005, 12:31pm

    Thanks Chris; just what I needed.

    • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

      Posted By : Colin Wake, 02-Dec-2005, 12:39pm

      That said it is only a case of 2 pop rivits to change the identity of a Herald.
      
      There are a few other things to look for.
      
      Anti-burst catches on the doors.
      
      Signs of changes to the top of the windscreen frame
      
      look for welding where the top deck meets the rear wings, up near where the boot hinges attach.
      
      It is very easy to make a Herald (or any Triumph in fact) look like what it wasn't originally.
      
      If you have any doubts, post here again.
      
      Cheers
      
      Colin

      • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

        Posted By : Flemming Jensen, 14-Feb-2006, 10:43pm

        Hi
        
        I have just bought a Herald 13/60 Estate in the UK and brought it back to Denmark some few weeks ago. Now I start to doubt wether it is indeed an Estate I got or wether it is a Saloon.
        The Chassis number is a bit odd accoording to the 13/60 Estate syntax(GE....SC)
        
        My chassisnumber is: GE195559C
        
        Do you folks have any comments ?
        
        best regards Flemming
        
        PS> pictures of the car here: http://www.skolekom.emu.dk/flemming.jensen/Indhol...

        • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

          Posted By : Colin Lindsay, 15-Feb-2006, 10:16am

          For a convertible the number should end in CV; SC was an estate suffix and DL for the saloon.
          Colin

        • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

          Posted By : Martin Evans, 15-Feb-2006, 12:37pm

          Hi
          
          The range of 13/60 Estate chassis numbers is shown as GE4SC to GE83433SC (i.e. GE followed by up to 5 digits followed by SC).
          
          Is it therefore possible that your chassis number is actually GE19555SC (which would fit in with the above) rarther than GE195559C - with 35 odd years of dirt making the 'S' look like a '9'?
          
          Martin

          • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

            Posted By : Chris Taylor, 15-Feb-2006, 01:32pm

            It is possible that some less than clued-up previous owner has fitted a replacement ID plate, and the wrong details have been stamped on it, with the S being misread for a 9 as suggested. It would be worth checking what details are on the UK "log book" (V5 document).

            • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

              Posted By : Flemming Jensen, 16-Feb-2006, 00:10am

              Hi
              
              first of all, thank you for the answers to you all. I hope you''re right about the mistake made somewhere in the past. I will ask the seller if he is aware of any such oddities:
              
              Chris, you write:
              "...It would be worth checking what details are on the UK "log book" (V5 document)." I am not familar with that. There is a log book form the last(off three) owner. No clues there. But a V5 document. What's that.
              
              best regards Flemming
              
              PS: BTW, the Estate leaf spring at the rear differs from the Saloon's. Does any one know the right meassures ?
              

              • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

                Posted By : Colin Wake, 16-Feb-2006, 07:45am

                The log book (V5) would probably have been surrendered when the previous owner sold it to you for permanent export.
                
                He may have photocopied it with a bit of luck.
                
                It would have originally have been a red, blue and green document that listed the basic details of the car.
                
                Keepers name and address
                Make and model
                Colour
                Engine no.
                etc...
                
                Cheers
                
                Colin

              • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

                Posted By : Chris Taylor, 16-Feb-2006, 04:49pm

                The V5 is the official DVLA reference number for the registration document or "log book"
                All UK log books for many years have quoted the chassis/commission/VIN number as well as the registration number (ie the number plates on front and back of the car) and the engine number.
                Not sure how many leaves and how thick the estate springs are, but it is quite different from the saloon, convertible or coupe spring. You'll soon know if it's an estate spring as any of the others will make the rear of the car sit too low, and the rear suspension will readily bottom over bumps with any appreciable load in the car.
                Although the Courier spring was (I think) stiffer still, there are so few of those about it is highly unlikely you will have the wrong spring in an estate unless some idiot has fitted a saloon spring, and as I say, that will be clearly too weak for the estate and has a different number of leaves.

                • Herald 13/60 chassis numbers

                  Posted By : William Davies, 17-Feb-2006, 11:05am

                  The Estate spring has seven heavier leaves and reduced static camber compared to the Saloon/Convertible spring. The Courier spring has eight leaves which are heavier still, and even less static camber. The latter is the absolute best spring, but as Chris says, rare as hens teeth. Don't confuse this one with the very light eight leaf spring fitted to Coupes,
                  Cheers,
                  Bill.