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Posted By : Martin Doe, 06-Apr-2006, 07:16pm

Right, the Estate body shell is stripped of underseal, wire brushed and waiting for the small amount of welding to be done. The car came with Kango static three point seat belts, which I intend to replace with inertia reels. The existing mountings are 1. The threaded plate below the rear side window for the top mount. 2. A plate behind the hand brake lever with two threaded holes, one for each short section of belt. 3. A plain hole in the floor pan at the base of the 'B' post, with a reinforcing plate and a loose nut.

Will the existing Imperial bolts and threaded plates be OK for the new belts, assuming that the new belts come with metric fittings.Or do they need replacing with metric threaded plates.

I know I need the belts for a pillarless car, I just want to get any new plates welded on before the paint goes on.

Martin

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Seat belts from Club Shop

Posted By : Colin Lindsay, 06-Apr-2006, 08:05pm

Martin, I bought a set of these a while back for a Herald and there was no trouble fitting them - the bolts are threaded for any existing captive nuts and are a direct replacement. Give the bolts a helping hand by cleaning and maybe tapping the existing threads and they'll screw straight in.
Colin
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  Posted By : Martin Doe, 06-Apr-2006, 09:25pm
  
  Nice one Colin, many thanks.
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    Posted By : Martin Doe, 13-Apr-2006, 02:46pm
    
    The belts have arrived,but the existing mounts are tapped 5/16th UNF, the new bolts that come with the belts are 10mm fine.A difference of about 2mm. I have discovered that bell housing pivot bushes are JUST the right size to allow the 5/16th bolts to fit the mounting holes in the new belts and to take up the slack in the hole
    
    . Do we think this is acceptable, or should I drill and re-tap the existing plates that are welded to the body to take the new 10mm bolts?
    
    Also, both belts have the adjustable inertia mechanism on the same side, meaning they are both the same and not a handed pair. I know they will work, but they will look odd as one side will have the inertia bit at the top, the other side will have it at the bottom. Methinks a call to the club shop is needed.
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      Posted By : Steve Cureton, 13-Apr-2006, 04:36pm
      
      They're not cheap from the club and at that price I would expect them to be provided in pairs and with the correct fixing bolts (assuming your fixing points are original?). If they can't provide the proper item then I'd ask for refund.
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        Posted By : Martin Doe, 14-Apr-2006, 04:30pm
        
        Righto, I visited the Securon website, it seems they only do the one type of belt, i.e you get two belts the same, not a handed pair. Also the supplied bolts are 7/16th Fine, so my mistake on the measurements, but still not the same as the 5/16th on the car. So the problem is not with the club, but with Securon.
        I trhink I will re-tap the threads to the larger size, but still not happy with the odd look of the inertia bits not matching. Ho Hum!
        
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        Posted By : Ian Osprey, 14-Apr-2006, 08:43pm
        
        Martin,
        I don't follow, How are they 'handed'?
        
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        Posted By : Steve Cureton, 14-Apr-2006, 10:39pm
        
        I don't think it's acceptable for them not to be handed and would want a refund
        
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        Posted By : Martin Doe, 15-Apr-2006, 09:34am
        
        Ian, by 'not handed' I mean they are assymetrical. See the photo. They have an adjuster on one end to alter the inertia mechanism so they can be mounted at any angle. On the herald, the reel is the top mount, below the side window. This means one adjuster is on top, on the other side, the adjuster is at the bottom.. I think they will look 'odd' and will annoy me because I will keep noticing this. I may well return them for a pair of statics, pity really, because the car will be a daily driver, not original spec, and the inertia reel type would be a lot more practical.
        
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        Posted By : Ian Osprey, 15-Apr-2006, 09:45am
        
        Oh, I see now!
        I thought you meant that on one side the inertia unit was at shoulder hight and the other on the floor. Must pay attention!
        Yes, that would annoy me too.
        If they're designed to be mounted at any angle, can't they be mounted at floor level? They'd trip up your passengers though!
        
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        Posted By : Martin Doe, 15-Apr-2006, 10:00am
        
        Picture paints a thousand words! I had thought of a floor mounting, I dont think i will have rear passengers very often, but I am very wary of 'cobbling' up a mounting with such an important item. IF any members can suggest a secure floor mounting I will greatfully listen.