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Posted By : Dan Owen, 14-Jun-2006, 01:32pm
The front ones that is, what do I have to do to get the engine back in? Let me explain. They are the type with 2 bolts to the chassis and a stud that
enters the endplate secured with a nut. As per the Haynes book (no... no, mustn't have a rant) I removed the nut intending to leave the mounts in place on
the chassis. By the way I replaced the engine mounts the other year, but all I remember was finishing sooner than expected! Anyway, lifted the engine
(&box) up and it seemed to stick on the mounts-needed a crowbar to free them. So I'm hazarding a guess they won't go back in that way when I come to
replace the engine, now do I need to remove the mounts from the chassis and fix them to the endplate, or just remove the top bolt & loosen the other to
allow the mount to swivel a bit on the chassis, or WHAT do I need to do? Any advice welcomed!! Desperately need to get it up & running again, want to
get the rebuilt engine run in before the insurance runs out, as I'm probably going to have to lay it up then unless there's some miracle like me getting a
job... Ta very much Messrs. Blair & Brown.
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Posted By : Graham Cowan, 14-Jun-2006,
02:40pm
Dan,
I'll copy a reply posted when I asked a question when renewing my engine mounts:
When fitting a new engine mounting, be sure to loosen the one on the opposite side as well. Fit the new mounting stud into the engine plate first, then
loosely fit the 2 bolts. Start the nut onto the mounting stud, but don't try to tighten to any degree - there should be plenty of scope for movement.
Tighten the 2 bolts on each mounting so that there is just a little play, maybe half a turn of each nut before they become tight. Now lower the jack
gently. The engine will rarely settle properly as it drops, so you wil need to grab the rocker cover and rock the gently on and off each mounting.
Everything should fall into a stable position, so you can now finally tighten all the bolts followed by the nuts onto the studs.
Hope this helps.
Graham.
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Posted By : Dan Owen, 15-Jun-2006,
10:54am
That sounds more or less like what I did when I renewed the mounts. Looks like Haynes aren't quite there as per usual...
Maybe putting it back in later today but more likely tomorrow if anyone has any further thoughts? I know replacing the mounts was a much quicker
job than I imagined, went out for a run and the throttle cable snapped just to give me the full dose of aggro!
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Posted By : Dan Owen, 16-Jun-2006,
03:07pm
Surely someone's done this in the context of replacing the engine and can save me some aggro in getting it wrong in the course of finding out
how to do it right? HELP!!!!!!!!
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Posted By : Chris Taylor,
16-Jun-2006, 07:03pm
I'm really not sure what your problem is. With alll the space around the engine, it is really quite feasible to see what's going on and
what needs to be moved where to get things to fit.
I am assuming you are talking about a Mk2 Herald chassis where the engine mountings fit on the suspension towers.
You need to unbolt the mounts from the chassis, and when refitting the engine, lower it down a little further forward than its final
position and then move it back so the mountings approach their final position "horizontally" as it were. You only need to avoid the lip
above the mounting face, so I suppose I am talking about half an inch. Loosening the nut on the stud where the mount fits to the engine
front plate will help so you can juggle everything into position.
If you are dealing with a Mk1 chassis (like the 948) then I apologise as I have no experience of those, though I seem to recall the
mountings were more UNDER the engine than on each side, so you simply lower the whole lump onto the mounting points. Either way, you want
both the mountings attached (loosely) to the engine before lowering into the car.
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Posted By : Dan Owen,
18-Jun-2006, 10:38am
Not a problem as such, but it helps not to cock it up and have to mess around to get it right! But ta, that info does help, yes it is
the mk2 chassis but quite frankly good 'ole (????????????) Haynes is no help whatsoever on these small but important points. I honestly
believe if they wrote a manual to teach people how to drive they would neglect to mention using the clutch to change gear, or the
importance of steering around corners.... Sorry to rant but every time I face that vertical learning curve I hate those guys a little
more!
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Posted By : Dan Owen,
19-Jun-2006, 08:36pm
Update... I couldn't believe how easily it went in, really. What marvellous cars Heralds are, I've had all sorts of others and
couldn't even contemplate taking the engine out, or rebuilding it on any of them. And now I've done something I never thought I
would. Great!