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Posted By : Ben Ferguson, 23-Dec-2003, 10:42pm
Anyone know if the Saab 99 turbo engine is the same as the dolomite 2 litre?
Thanks
Ben
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Posted By : Laurence Cochrane,
23-Dec-2003, 11:43pm
The answer is yes & no
Yes someone does know !
No they are not the same !
HOWEVER!
This does not mean that a Saab turbo engine cannot be fitted to a rwd Dolly, or even easier a fwd.
Basicly Triumph sold their fwd design to Saab who initialy used Triumphs 1850 engine, then developed their own 2ltr based on the Triumphs design.
In the 80s Will Gollop rallycrossed a Saab fitted with a Sprint engine on the Saab's gearbox. So why not go the other way round ?
Deserves looking into further !
Laurence
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Posted By : Ben Ferguson, 24-Dec-2003,
00:07am
Yeah, I was just interested to know, as I have a 13/60 and was just looking round at various websites and saw that someone had fitted a saab 99
turbo onto his 1500 TC engine with an 1850 gearbox to his Herald!! Now I dont have the money to do this yet, but it sure would be fun...and very
fast! Just out of idle curiosity, would the Dolly/saab engine have any clearance problems on Herald bodywork?!
Ben
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Posted By : David Pearson, 06-Feb-2004,
01:20pm
I don't know about fitting Heralds, but a friend of ours who worked in Triumph experimental, liberated a former experimental GT6 MkII that had
been fitted with slant four running gear. It went quite well so equiped he remembers, its now been retrospectively fitted with 'normal' 6 pot
tackle.
David
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Posted By : David Rumens,
15-Feb-2004, 08:38pm
Dave, I have seen Spits and Hearlds fitted with the 1850 engine. Not an easy installation and to me this cast some doubt as to the
reliability of the set-up. Ok for a fun car I guess.
The comment always is "Where do you put the exhaust system" on this type of set-up !
Regards
Dave
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Posted By : David Pearson,
20-Feb-2004, 06:49am
Dave
Harry (the guy with the factory experimental slant 4 GT6 MK11) also mentioned a fairly sizable extra bonnet bulge, resembling a
Weetabix box (48 not 24). This bulge has now been removed but is still evidenced buy its visible plan form from underneath.
David
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Posted By : David
Rumens, 22-Feb-2004, 11:25am
David,
Yes I can just see the bonnet clearance problems as the engine is the wrong shape!
Dave
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Posted By : James Owen,
10-Aug-2004, 09:57am
so what kind of modifications do i need to do to fit a sprint into my herald?
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Posted By : Colin
Wake, 10-Aug-2004, 12:07pm
The exhaust needs to be where the nearside suspension turret is, also the tops of the carbs may want to poke through the
bonnet. The distributor is where the bulkhead/heater box is.
The gearbox is too fat for the chassis, unless you use a Vitesse box, which may not be upto the job.
Just for starters.
Colin
(Who saw a white 13/60 estate with a sprint engine, up on bricks, 13 years ago, where is still is now, just that the bricks
are in a garage now. Had blacked out windows, looked really cool!!)
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Posted By : Andrew Leahy,
22-Mar-2004, 05:46pm
Hi Ben,
I fitted a Sprint engine into my 13/60 Herald. Its a great engine and a worthwhile mod, but it involved fairly extensive modification to the
bulkhead etc. Saab engine fits back to front compared to the Dolly, so you have the same clearance problems there.
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Posted By : David Rumens, 27-Dec-2003,
01:33pm
Ben, The anwser is no. Saab re-engineered the original Triumph design in the early 1970's.
Regards
Dave
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Posted By : Andrew Brady, 11-Jun-2007,
10:44am
No, the SAAB 2 litre engine is a major redesign 'up top', it's the engine the Sprint Engine always should have been. Straight head studs and utterly
bulletproof. For what it's worth, my year old Sprint I bought in 1978 promptly blew up within a couple of months, I had a replacement rebuilt, tuned up
and screwed together with the aid of a friend of mine who was a SAAB technicianÂ… unlike BL's efforts, that engine gave me 10 years of
reliable running and went to six figures on the clock.
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Posted By : Philip Brammer, 26-Jun-2007,
11:28pm
From my recollection the 1700 engines were manufactured by Triumph for SAAB but (rumour has it) a shipment of these engines was so bad SAAB refused
to use them and developed the 2 litre version under license. My 99 1.7 had 'Stanpart' all over it whereas my 99 2 litre and 99 turbo did not. Water
pumps were a b*****d to seal but clutches were a joy. A superb car and engine!!