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Posted By : Barry Lane, 31-May-2007, 10:55pm
A couple of days ago the Courier arrived and that evening as I usually do I settled myself down to read it with a keen sense of anticipation hoping to see
an article on the TR7 / TR8 only once again to be disappointed. Eventually I got to page 78 to "The Courier Index" compiled by Peter J Williams who is to
be congratulated on his hard work compiling such an index. I thought I would scan through the index just to see how many articles there had been in Volume
27, now while I have never claimed to be the most observant of people I couldn't find any. Now, I thought one of two things must have happened, either
Peter omitted to detail the articles on the TR7 / TR8 or more likely there hasn't been any!
Once I had completed scanning the index for a second time (yes, you are right I should get out more) my eyes were drawn to page 81 which is titled "How the
IVR scheme works - for everyone:" I then looked at the model a month chart only to see that surprise surprise there was no mention of the TR7 / TR8.
Surely as the club tries to encourage younger members to join our ranks the Wedge is the most likely Triumph that younger members would join the club with
by virtue of the fact they are the most widely available and generally very reasonably priced. I realise the Wedge isn't everyone's cup of tea but that's
what makes us all different but we all have one thing in common we all love our Triumphs and share a common goal to preserve the marque.
There must be many owners out there who have stories, tips and other useful articles they would like to share with other owners but last time a seperate
Register Secretary was suggested (and there was a willing volunteer to take up that role) there were people suggesting that such an appointment would spell
the end of every Triumph club in the land, which has to be absolute nonsense. Why would the TR Register or any other club be upset if the Courier included
articles on the TR7 / TR8? One respondent even suggested that Wedge owners should direct any queries they have about their cars to other such clubs. How
can that be right when we all pay our membership which in my eyes surely makes us all equal members of the club and as such we are entitled to have our
interests represented in the Courier? If this is not so then we should be told that this is the case. After all if we are not worthy members due to an
irrational fear of upsetting other clubs because we only have a Wedge then lets have it out in the open.
I'm sure there are other owners out there who feel the same sense of injustice that I do and I hope you will add your comments to this thread together to
be fair with those who oppose such an appointment including the doom mongers who predict that it might signal the end of the Triumph movement. My comments
will probably have ruffled a few feathers but that might be a good thing.
I realise that many members own more than one vehicle which may be a mix of a Wedge and other Triumphs but isn't it about time that we Wedge owners were
allowed to come in from the cold instead of just feeling as though we are along for the ride if nothing else as poor realtions to subsidise the membership
of the owners of "PROPER" Triumphs?
Barry.
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Posted By : Clive Speaks, 01-Jun-2007,
12:24pm
Got to agree with you Barry. I have the same problem. We are in the process of shifting on one of our Club cars and that will leave us with "whisper it
softly" a TR7 as our only Triumph. See the thing is that of our dozen or so regular attendees, 4 own/drive wedges of various types and have all noticed
the same distinct lack of support, coverage, interest, spares info and a general air of disdain. I had a technical query which I took to TLD as the TR
man within the club and was told straight out that he had no knowledge of wedges at all. So where do we go from here? I guess to the TR drivers Club
and Club Triumph as they both run lots of events and are not sniffy about 1970s Leyland iron. Shame really but needs must. I doubt that I'll be
renewing my TSSC membership next year, doesn't seem a lot of point somehow.
In short if the TSSC cannot walk the walk the perhaps it shouldn't talk the talk.
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Posted By : Barry Lane, 02-Jun-2007,
05:45pm
Well Clive,
I think it is now time for someone in a position of authority within the Club perhaps Nigel Clark in his new role as Club Manager should either
reassure us or issue a statement of intent that in the coming months / years the interests of all club members (even Wedge owners) will be catered
for. If not, at least be up front and tell us that the club is not intersted in supporting the TR7 / TR8. It's time this issue was settled once and
for all I would like to think that I joined the right club but at the moment I am far from convinced.
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Posted By : Clive Speaks, 04-Jun-2007,
09:46am
Hi Nigel welcome to the job and the very best of luck.
So how about it then? A month or two ago you actually had a volunter for the role and a very knowleable one at that.
regards
Clive
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Posted By : Hugh Glossop,
04-Jun-2007, 04:00pm
I actually phoned the club three times to discuss this only to be told there is nobody in, someone will phone you back, nothing happened, i
guess this is the clubs attitude to the wedge and that says it all, if it wasnt for lemans (what a great event thanks phillip willcocks!) i
would not be renewing my family membership
hugh
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Posted By : Colin Wake,
04-Jun-2007, 05:08pm
Hugh
I'm Sure Phils' dad will quite happily take all the praise for CLM trip.
Cheers
Colin
(Member of the CLM 2004 and CLM 2006 Organising Commitee)
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Posted By : Nigel
Gibbins, 04-Jun-2007, 05:16pm
Hugh,
I would also like to assure you that this is NOT the clubs attitude to the TR7/8 at all. There has been staffing issues at HQ and these
have affected the availablity of people there. Now that Nigel has taken up his role of club manager we should see these issues
addressed and normal service can resume.
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Posted By : Clive Speaks,
04-Jun-2007, 05:45pm
All of which is very nice Nigel but doesn't answer the question posed by this thread's title namely:
TR7's & TR8's why not have a separate Register Secretary?
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Posted By : Nigel Clark,
04-Jun-2007, 04:12pm
Hi Clive and Barry,
Thank you for you good wishes - today is literally my first day in the "hot seat" as Club Manager. As a TR6 owner, I too have noticed the
vacancy for a TR Register Secretary.
In reply, first let me say that the TSSC has been and will remain open to owners of all Triumph models, including TR7 & 8's. It is my
intention that the TSSC should provide a full range of services for owners of the whole Triumph range. In order to include all Triumph
models, we do need to have a secretary for each model (or range of models). Our problem has been that despite asking for volunteers, no one
has yet come forward as a Register Secretary for the TR range. Like all clubs, we need willing members to volunteer to for such
positions.
So what can we do to fill this gap?
Please would any member with detailed knowledge of the TR range who is interested in being the Register Secretary contact me at Sunderland
Court. You indicated in your message that someone has previously volunteered for the position - please could you let me know who (I have
asked at HQ and we are not aware of a volunteer, and would have welcomed them with open arms).
We will also re-advertise the position in next month's Courier. I really hope that one of these approaches will enable us to fill the post
of TR Register Secretary. The vacancy does not reflect any lack of interest in TR's at the TSSC.
Regards,
Nigel Clark
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Posted By : Hugh Glossop,
04-Jun-2007, 07:00pm
Nigel
I Actually volenteered for tr7/8 as a seperate entity, as they are completely different from the chassied trs (2-6) and felt at the
time that the Tr's need splitting on this basis and still feel the same, after all you have seperate registrars for herald types and
spitfire types why not split the tr range which is huge down into the following 4cyl chassis type (Tr2-4A), 6cyl chassis type (tr5/6),
and Tr7/8, as nobody is going to know about all of them , its to much to ask and to big a job for 1 person. whereas 3 people would cope
without having to put a rediculous amout of time in.
hugh
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Posted By : Nigel
Clark, 04-Jun-2007, 08:06pm
Hugh,
Thank you for the suggestion - I agree in principle that the whole TR range represents a lot of different designs for one person to
cover.
I would really like to discuss with you in more detail, and apoologise that you could not get through when you called the club
recently. Please could you call me at club HQ (Sunderland Court) and let's talk about how to take this forward.
Regards,
Nigel
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Posted By : Neil Lane,
04-Jun-2007, 09:51pm
Welcome Nigel
It is encouraging to see your comments regarding the TR vehicles and the intentions for the future.
I share the frustrations detailed by Barry, ( bigger & older bruv!! ) & Clive and cannot help but feel that we are
indeed 'the poor relations' of the Triumph membership.
Hugh would be a valuable source as knowledge as he has probably forgotten more than I know !!
Not difficult I know ! Thought I would get in before anybody else did.
We and our vehicles are very much underrated and under represented.
Neil
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Posted By : Barry
Lane, 04-Jun-2007, 10:30pm
Nigel,
I was impressed to read your future vision of the TSSC and I wish you every success in your new role and hope you will have
the necessary support to see your vision become a reality.
Supporting the whole Triumph range can only benefit current and future club members and the TSSC in general. This in turn
will generate a welcoming spirit of equality and inclusion for all Triumph owners.
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Posted By : Hugh
Glossop, 05-Jun-2007, 08:29am
Nigel
ill give you a ring today, wonderful to see your vision of the future, regarding all triumphs
hugh
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Posted By : Hugh Glossop, 05-Jun-2007, 11:03am
To all
have spoken to nigel clark, we are going to have a meeting at stafford,watch this space.
hugh